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Eating steak tartare in Paris (or anywhere): safe?
October 27th, 2003, 07:06 AM
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Eating steak tartare in Paris (or anywhere): safety?
I used to alive in Annecy, in French republic, and one of my favorite things to eat was steak tartare at this picayune restaurant called Les Airelles. Now I alive in the states, and I never swallow ground beefiness (and rarely swallow beef at all) considering I don't feel comfortable. All the recalls and stories about food contamination have me concerned enough to have altered my eating habits. My question is, is it safe to swallow steak tartare in France? I know this sounds naive but I'm going to Paris and was really looking forward to this dish! I thought maybe they have different standards there with regard to meat production (as they exercise with GMO food)...
Oct 27th, 2003, 07:17 AM
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HI
When you eat meat or eggs anywhere that are not thoroughly cooked, you are running a risk, usually a small one, but a risk. Personally, I accept that risk sometimes because I am very good for you, have no allowed system problems, am neither pregnant nor elderly, etc. You likewise run a small-scale risk when you get into a auto, or wing.
No one tin can give you a guarantee anywhere.
October 27th, 2003, 07:18 AM
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I just read an article about steak tartare.... I would recall you would be okay at an upscale eating place where you know the beef is fresh and has been kept refrigerated. Commonly information technology is not what nosotros would call hamburger, but loftier-quality steak that has been manus pulverized.
Oct 27th, 2003, 08:19 AM
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Caution, if yous are in Belgium and y'all see Filet American on the menu, don't order information technology unless you enjoy eating steak tartare. 
Oct 27th, 2003, 08:25 AM
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This reminds me of standard fare at any role when I was a kid growing upwards in Milwaukee - raw beef and onions. At whatsoever thing where nutrient was served, you would find a large tray with a huge mound of usually ground round, big slices of raw onions and sliced caraway rye bread. You would put the raw meat open face on the bread, add together the onions and top with plenty of common salt and pepper. People would eat this stuff like crazy. I don't think that I have seen this served in the last xxx years. I think with all the health concerns about fifty-fifty serving undercooked meat, this dish has well-nigh disappeared.
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Oct 27th, 2003, 08:26 AM
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Thanks a lot for that tip, Budman. We'll be in Belgium for virtually of our trip!
Oct 27th, 2003, 08:35 AM
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Steak tartare is non that common in restaurants. I mostly presume that information technology is safe when offered and lodge it with no qualms. I'm nevertheless effectually to tell about it.
Oct 27th, 2003, 08:42 AM
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Over the past few years I accept had tartare many times in Paris. I live by two rules never eat it from a vendor (and eat it only in busy meliorate establishments) and rule ii is take some Pepto Bismal handy, but in instance there is a "rumble".....keep in mind that beef is hard to digest....raw beefiness is even more so....the rumble may but exist your stomach saying "and I am supposed to do what with this"....hence the Pepto!
Oct 27th, 2003, 09:34 AM
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At Brasserie Balzar, 49, r. des Ecoles, Zagat xiv(nutrient), They gear up the Tartare in the room with nifty flourish. This a fun, upbeat brasserie with acceptable food. Food snobs lament the current ownership, every bit practise we, but locals notwithstanding congregate hither, particularily for a tardily dinner. Try information technology. JP
Oct 27th, 2003, 10:08 AM
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Thank you for all the tips. I only wanted to clarify that I'm not looking for a guarantee of any sort. I empathize it'southward risky business to eat raw meat. But I thought that since this is a much more common do in France, and they tend to have higher standards with regard to food production, it might be significantly safer. In whatsoever case, I'm going for it, at least once!
October 27th, 2003, 10:50 AM
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Along the same lines: I've eaten raw oysters my entire life, with no difficulty ever -- until last January, when my son and I ate them in Paris at an extremely decorated seafood eatery, and found ourselves extremely ill on the flight home 36 hours after. My son (who asked, before the offset oyster, "These won't make the states ill, will they?) will never eat oysters again in any form. I volition, at any opportunity!
Oct 27th, 2003, 02:46 PM
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mp413,
Although information technology's been a year, we stopped for dinner at Brasserie Balzar, 49, r. des Ecoles (as oakglen mentioned) last September. While it wasn't prepared tableside, the staek tartare I had there was among the best of my life--and very fresh. My girlfriend ordered the sole meuniere and it was equally superb.
I know people say this place has gone downhill since it'southward new ownership but everything form the food to the service to the ambience was wonderful when we were there. I tin can't imagine how good information technology was before!
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Oct 27th, 2003, 03:13 PM
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I've eaten it a number of times and in a number of places and love it. Since I always gild steaks rare, I don't call back there is any more than danger in eating steak tartare. Of course, I wouldn't get it at a place that I wouldn't trust for one reason or another. And while we're on the subject carpaccio of beefiness is served a whole lot -- which is also raw beef, and I've never had a problem with that either. In fact I've eaten it dozens of times in France and in Italy as well as other countries.
Oct 27th, 2003, 03:53 PM
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Hey - I just rememberd wher I enjoyed it the well-nigh on a recent trip - the bistro at the Hotel du Louvre.....conveniant to sight seeing and safe (the oysters are good too)
Oct 27th, 2003, 03:59 PM
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What exactly are the risks? Tapeworm, due east.coli, whatever others?
Oct 27th, 2003, 04:03 PM
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Salmonella, E.Coli, Taxoplasmosis, parasites, hepatitis, Ugh!
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WillTravel - I'chiliad sure there are many...simply not existence able to spend more than than five minutes abroad from the bath room is enough for me....
Oct 27th, 2003, 04:11 PM
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In all honesty, I retrieve it is merely as likely that you will get equally sick from a piece of well cooked fish that was bad to start with. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a whole lot more people get ill from "tainted" fish or chicken that has been cooked than practice from raw beef. Just I must admit that'south simply a guess.
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I think your odds on getting ill on raw meat are a touch higher than on eating cooked meat. After all, a piece of meat with some bacteria, is prophylactic once it is cooked.
I had salmonella poisoning in one case, from a good restaurant in Bermuda, having had something with raw egg in it. I never desire to be that ill once again, and then even if I ate cherry-red meat, I would never run a risk eating information technology raw.
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